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Hello, my name is Brian and I have a favor to ask any kind souls out there. I am trying to build a conduit dome and my source for tools is being flaky about the whole thing. I know how to build the dome. I just need the tools. I will be happy to compensate for any expenses including replacing saw blades, drill bits, etc. I will also compensate for your kindness in letting me use your equipment. I have a truck, so I can travel anywhere in the Bay Area to work this out. Also, I am extremely flexible on time, and will not need any help from you. I see the approach of BM on the time horizen and hope the universe helps connect me with a tool wielding friend. Much love.
-Brian
P.S. The dome is going to be 3V, about 12' radius, and will be the home of blacklight pingpong on the playa.
-Brian
P.S. The dome is going to be 3V, about 12' radius, and will be the home of blacklight pingpong on the playa.
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Re: dome love
Sat, August 14, 2004 - 11:35 AMHey there Brian,
I built what sounds to be probably the same dome about 3 years back. After you've chosen 3v the 10' lengths of the conduit, in order to minimize waste, suggest a 12' ish radius. Are you doing 3/5 (more than a hemisphere) or 2/5 (less than...)?
So, in terms of tools, when I built my dome here is what I needed:
I sawed all the pipes by hand. (I did a 3/5 with 1" conduit, so that was a lot of sawing.) This required a vise (borrowed) and a reasonably good hand hacksaw.
Next was the flattening. This required a press. I paid the crucible $100 to use their manual screw press. Using their screw press was a 2 person operation. I don't know if they would still do this deal or not. They may have tightened up their operation.
Then the drilling. This required a drill press (borrowed).
Then the end bending. Required a vise (borrowed).
I happen to have on hand the same borrowed drill press and borrowed vise. I bought myself an arbor press in anticipation of doing some more dome work this year, but I had to drop the project at the beginning of this month due to lack of time and help.
For you to accomplish this before Bman, if that is your goal, is going to take up the majority of your time over the next two weeks. I am NOT exaggerating. A lot of the work involves moving the (with a 3/5 dome with 10% extra made for spares) about 188 poles from one place to the other. Help will be helpful.
With some kind of thing that makes me confident you can take care of and return the tools that I am just borrowing from someone else, I can lend you the arbor press, drill press, vise, and hand hacksaw. I will need the arbor press until about wednesday or thursday of this week. You would need to buy your own drill bits, wood for the jigs, saw blades, oil for the drill bits as you are working, etc.
Some advice on drilling: When I first did my dome I made the holes the same size as the bolts. This makes the dome very tough to assemble. Go up an eighth inch and you will be happier.
Bruce :-) -
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Sat, August 14, 2004 - 12:10 PMThank you for the reply. I actually found some nice person to let me use their shop which will allow me to cut and drill the holes. I am not sure yet about the pressing. I might try to contact the crucible, or find someone else. Thank you for your advice and tool offer. I will let you know if I need anything in the next two weeks. Much love.
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Sun, August 15, 2004 - 6:57 PMFor cutting the struts, I'm surprised I don't hear people talk much about mitre saws. It's much faster than a hacksaw, sawzall or pipe cutter (and I tried all but the last one). The only issue is that you need to account for a loss of about 1/8" per cut.
Try your absolute hardest to get your hands on a hydraulic press. I have a friend with a metalshop who let me sneak in there last night, and I got 120 struts flattened in about 6 hours.
I'm working on the drilling right now. I should go get back to it so I can maybe finish tonight.
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Sun, August 15, 2004 - 7:06 PMI have everything worked out except the smashing part. I am still looking for a hydrolic press to use, rent, or borrow. Thank you for you replies.
-Brian
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Re: dome love
Mon, August 16, 2004 - 7:58 AMYea, a chop saw (or miter saw) is idea for cutting struts if you have one of those abrasive cutting wheels on it (obviously a wood blade won't work). We cut them 5 struts at a time! The cutting
takes the least time of anything. -
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Re: dome love
Mon, August 16, 2004 - 8:20 AMAnd the light show is great! It reminded me of sparkler poi :) -
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Mon, August 16, 2004 - 10:16 AMwww.snapsite.com/snapsite/...parks2.jpg
Not sure the neighbors loved the post-sunset strut cutting when my friends and I made the Desert Nose. Here a makita worm-drive 8" circular saw with a thin cutoff wheel is used to cut one strut at a time to the correct length. We started around noon. We cut 320 struts (180 different lengths) in one day with only a few mistakes. www.timefold.com/nose
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