Covering the dome...

topic posted Thu, June 7, 2007 - 2:29 PM by  Vaughn
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We recently began construction of our dome covering. I'll try to keep this post updated as we go since there seems to be a small amount of info out there about dome coverings. We're using billboard vinyl and we've cut it into 20 long triangles that we're cementing together with pvc cement. Hopefully, it does the trick.

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Vaughn
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  • Re: Covering the dome...

    Thu, June 7, 2007 - 4:22 PM
    Hi Vaughn,

    Thanks for putting the info out there.

    It's interesting-- one thinks at first that the strut lengths of the dome will be the tricky part, and then it's the hub/vertex system, and then you realise you have all that floor and roof space to cover!!!

    If this is for the playa I suspect your main problem will be overheating. I am going to put down my general rules for shade here to see if that might help you with some ideas, and then share a bit of my experience with managing heat in domes.

    my core shade principles:

    Orient main tarp coverage to South by Southeast, but cover tarp over ¾ of the sides, leaving only the north by northwest open.
    2 tarp layers, outer layer breathable, inner layer solid and air/waterproof.
    Do not make pockets at the top where hot air can be trapped.
    Front and back ventilation allow a breeze.
    Keep people away from sides of cover, which will radiate heat if not double layered.

    The 2 layers is very very very important always.

    As this applies to domes, I would say be sure to have a hole in the top. Even better is to have a segment that goes all the way from the top to the ground to let hot air out.

    Cross breeze can be accomplished by not running the cover all the way to the bottom. Or you can make it foldable so that it can fold down at night.

    Good luck!

    Bruce :-)
    • Re: Covering the dome...

      Wed, June 13, 2007 - 12:42 AM
      The top opening is crucial, even more crucial than the bottom. The good thing is that a sphere has the best cooling of any shape. As long as you're surface area has good emmisitivity <(white) although,it is the best way to keep heat in as well>. Black interior and white or reflective exterior (both fairly well covered with the canvas vinyl you're using, assuming it is indeed white).

      Neglecting air flow and a bunch of gnarly integrals to even begin to describe it (actually there's still never been a thesis to describe the "cooling affect" that dome currents create), simply regarding heat and radiation the general equation is:
      R=AeST^4 that is Radiation=Area*emmisitivy*Stefan's constant (~ the order of 10^-8watts/meter)*surface Tempurature to the fourth power.

      Interpreting this pulls two constants out of the equation (Area and Stefan's constant) leaving only emmisitivy in question, and surface tempurature driving the real power of radiation. Hence choose reflective material. White painted internally would be rad if there was a black base to do a really sick multi-spectrum mandala, but that might take DiVinci on his back or at least some similar feat.

      Now, out of theory and down to tactile reality..... the cover is by far the hardest part of a dome to fabricate. I worked with a 60 year old fabric guru in Sebastapol out of a barn for a week to connect 4 bolts of fabric into one open topped and vinyl windowed 32' dome cover, and the last few runs had me heaving heavy guage cotton (never again) over my back while she ran it all through the machine. There's a couple hundred human hours that go into most dome skins you'll see. I was lucky to draw on her cellular memory to just simply know a 20' piece was going to be 1" off without having to be measured. It was finally snug in the end as a good mix of experiences came together.

      Just curious, but what's the geometry to your design Vaugh? Keep in mind that you want to mimic the frame, or at least the basis of an icosahedron when you design your seems. Also, depending on diameter, make your skin a healthy bit (inches) larger than your frame for a sure fit. There's no shame in 1/2" of sag if nobody will ever notice because they're too busy enjoying your dome. If you're material is already white, play with the idea of painting it black (you want internal human heat at night to be absorbed and external solar heat to be reflected). This is the best I can offer, but am always curious to learn if you care to share your journey. If you're in LA and want some expert advice on it, try asking for Andrew Bangsbergs input. I really am curious in your choice of geometry and design. Drop a line and lemmeno.

      Oh yeah, you might not want to attempt putting the skin on by 6pm as you want to put it on as hot and saggy and sundrenched as possible to allow for linear expansion and make it easier to put on. Besides, it's always a million times more gratifying to get your base coat singed into you early in the week and have drinks in the shade on the afternoon of a dome build. Enjoy!
      • Re: Covering the dome...

        Thu, July 5, 2007 - 2:39 PM
        Wow, thanks for all the info guys. The dome is a 3V, 3/8 geodesic and the vinyl pieces we're using have been glued into 5 sections. We're doing our prebuild in a couple of weeks and we'll nip and tuck and glue as necessary then. The outside is indeed white and the inside is all crazy colors from the billboard we used. Not gonna be able to do double layer this time...perhaps next year. I'll post again after the prebuild.
        • Re: Covering the dome...

          Mon, July 16, 2007 - 2:10 PM
          Hello-

          Just a thought- I would test a PVC glued joint in the heat. Wait for a sunny hot day or somehow mimick 100+ degree temps (heatlamp?).

          Some glues will soften considerably in the heat; it's worth giving it a test. All your effort can become unglued!!

          Best

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